these guns laws infringe on the first amendment but we are not enforcing gun laws, laws to restrict violence strongly enough. i think that's very peculiar. i think the momentum is still with the advocates of saner gun laws. i think that the assault weapons ban is still hard to pass, which i think is very unfortunate but it's nonetheless true. there is strong support for background checks and the issue there, i don't think -- we're going to get a bill on universal background checks. the real issue, will it be compromised so much that too much will be given away be a i think there's a good chance of getting off banning the big magazines and if you have that plus a law against gun trafficking, this would be a very significant victory for people who have been trying to get saner gun laws for a very long time. >> let me untangle the lapierre contradiction. i think he's right on one of the issues. over the last 20 years gun laws have become looser. over the last 20 years gun violence has dropped by 50%. tens of thousands of people are alive today because of better policing. better policing, incarc